When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade this year, it appeared to be an unvarnished victory for the anti-abortion movement.

But as the year draws to a close, the realities of a post-Roe America are turning out differently than anyone predicted.

Guest: Kate Zernike, a national correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading:

• After the midterms, abortion rights advocates hope to harness public support for the long term, while anti-abortion campaigners look to advance new laws.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.



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